“Well, you know Thais, they're f-word lazy, man”, said the expat on the adjacent table in the coffee shop.
This is a statement I've heard many times over the years.
It's an easy thing to say off the cuff, particularly if that has been your experience.
But that experience is usually very limited: limited to a lazy girlfriend you adopted into your home, a lazy laborer you employed cheaply to fix your roof, or a lazy mother-in-law who thinks you're not good enough for her daughter – despite the fact that you paid for her house.
In reality it's a sweeping generalization that isn't applicable to the millions of Thais who work hard every day, for what is often a pitiful wage.
But is there some truth to this generalization? I mean, there's no smoke without fire, right? Why do people keep saying it? Why has this label been stuck on the Thai people?
This perception of laziness is coming from somewhere, and it seems to be the experience of quite a large number of expats.
I'll share my experience and thoughts on this stereotype below, and then you can give me your take in the comments section.
Are Thai People Lazy?
Since I came to Thailand, some 14 years ago, I have to say that the majority of Thais I have encountered are pretty hard-working.
From the maid to the market trader to the Som Tum seller to the lady serving coffee in Starbucks, most of the Thais I see on a daily basis are working a lot of hours.
Most are up at the crack of dawn, many working 6 or 7 days a week, particularly those with their own businesses.
The guys and gals in the local 7-Eleven seldom have a day off, taxi drivers sleep just a few hours in their taxis before hitting the road again, and go up country and you have OAPs toiling the fields for 8 hours a day.
So where are all the lazy people?
Some might say, “But that's out of necessity, not because they want to. Given the chance, they'd put their feet up and live off someone else's labour”.
But how many people around the world don't work out of necessity? And how many wouldn't take it easier if they could?
I will concede that most Thais have no choice but to work. There is no comparable social security system. If you don't work, you don't eat. Simple.
Is It a Class Issue?
Even in the middle classes I see little evidence of this stereotype.
For example, the experiences I've had with Thai colleagues at my friend's Bangkok-based company is comparable to that of staff in the UK. Most work very hard. Sre, some are keener than others, some work faster than others, and some are more organized than others.
This is no different to any other office around the world.
You have a very wealthy upper class in Thailand, and I'd argue that that's where you're more likely to find laziness.
The sons and daughters (some) of rich Bangkok businessmen tend to do little more than drive flash cars and do lunch with friends.
But again, that's the same all over the world, isn't it?
So who are we talking about being lazy here?
Bar girls that sit around of an evening, occasionally playing pool and waiting to be bought a drink and taken home? The privileged wives of pension-rich expats who don't need to work?
These groups don't represent all Thai people. This is a minority.
The “Sabai Sabai” Approach to Life
Perhaps Thais don't work as efficiently as Brits, Aussies, Americans or Europeans, and perhaps that gives a perception of laziness. A lack of efficiency, taking longer to do things, a seemingly reluctant attitude at times, this could be perceived as laziness.
But the latter, in most cases, is because they are doing a boring job for little money, with no real career prospects.
It's also horribly hot in Thailand; the humidity makes you feel sweaty and tired. If you're working outside, you're not going to be over the moon about the sun beating down on you all day.
Or is the case that Thais will cut corners if they can, knock off early if no one is looking, and take the easy way out if possible?
I can attest to this being the case in some people I know and in some dealings I've had in Thailand, but part of me feels this is cultural – the “sabai sabai” (comfortable) approach to life, mixed with a little “mai bpen rai” (never mind).
But then aren't we all aiming for this to some degree?
We'd all like to earn the most we can doing as little work as possible, unless we truly love our work and would do it despite the money.
Is It a Penchant for Laziness?
Or maybe the difference is in the what you'd do if you weren't working.
Is it the case that us expats spend our free time getting things done: tidying out the garage, washing the car, learning the guitar, playing golf, etc. Whereas the Thai would rather just sit down and watch a drama series and eat snacks.
I don't know where you're from, but in the UK, generally speaking, we are a nation of doers. We keep busy: “Don't put off until tomorrow what you can do today”. Of course there are many who aren't like that, and in my opinion this culture is changing.
Look, I am a pretty productive person, I don't like idly sitting around wasting time. But that doesn't make other people lazy. It's my personality. Maybe I need to relax more…
The Problem with Generalizations
For every Thai person I could label as “lazy” there's three I know who are the complete opposite.
My grand-mother-in-law is 90 and still gets up at the crack of dawn to go into town to buy vegetables to sell at a local market. Even with Covid lurking there was no keeping her down. She could never be labelled as “lazy”.
My wife's sister works six days a week, as does her husband. When I met my wife she was working six days a week and waking up at 5.30am.
Then I think about the Thai wives of expats I know who moved to Europe. Surely these are lazy Thai women who, as soon as they got the chance, put their feet up and sponged off their husbands!
Well, no. There are three couples I know very well. All three wives work in their adopted country. Their husbands could support them, but they choose to work and earn their own money instead.
I do know the stereotype, though.
I know of one guy's partner who doesn't work yet insists on having a maid and a nanny, when clearly she could fill these roles. She prefers to adopt the hi-so life, immersed in fashion and selfies. But man, this isn't exclusive to Thailand, this is happening the world over.
And this is the problem with generalizations; it really depends on your experience, on your interactions, on your social circle.
Of course, every country has its lazy people – those who don't want to work or don't want to work very hard – and there are certainly some lazy Thai people.
The reality is, however, that most Thais don't have the privilege of being lazy. Period.
Do they have more of a penchant for laziness than us western expats? Maybe… You tell me.
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Rhonda Maza says
During snow storms when every other restaurant and even Walmart is closed and DURING a hurricane only restaurants or even.business of any kind open was Thai restaurants. I see the strongest work ethic i .the world for sure and least lazy.
Mar 22, 2018 at 3:17 am
TheThailandLife says
Mar 22, 2018 at 4:15 pm
James says
Feb 17, 2018 at 10:21 pm
Darren says
Take for example all the piles of rubbish that are everywhere.
People too lazy to walk to a bin.
The officials too lazy to provide bins or even bother to consider it.
Have a picnic on the beach, just get up and leave.
I like Thais, I am lazy too. Great for socializing, but generally useless getting things done or doing things properly.
Nov 15, 2017 at 4:29 pm
Martin1 says
So they prefer to give 10 THB to a motorbike taxi to drive them to the end of the street instead of walking by themselves.
Consider this with their cheap Charly mentality as a background!
Sep 26, 2018 at 11:25 pm
TheThailandLife says
Sep 26, 2018 at 11:52 pm
matt jones says
Nov 14, 2017 at 4:44 am
TheThailandLife says
You do also realise there are hundreds of thousands of men and women from the region who go to University in Bangkok and other parts of the country and go on to get great jobs?
I think the disproportionate amount of women you meet from poor backgrounds working in bars - from provinces in Issan - has caused you to tarnish all Isaan people with a misinformed stereotype.
The people are not ethnic Lao or Khmer, either, they are generally considered one or the other, with the Khmer speaking population down in the South of Isaan. That said, you will find that many Isaan people don't acknowledge a Lao lineage, because their roots may well be from elsewhere. Actually, depending on the kingdom in rule, at one time the people of the region would have been considered Khmer, before that Dvaravati (Mon), after that Lao.
But! It's not as simple as that. Isaan people are an ethno-regional group not an ethnic minority - because the area has a mix of different people who have inhabited the area at different times. Regardless, it is broadly accepted that the majority of people in the region belong to the Tai group of peoples, as do Thai and Lao people.
Many ethic Thai settled in the region in the 17th Century too, so a family who've lived in Isaan for 400 years may actually have originally been from Southern Thailand anyway. So the term Isaan is simply a regional term for people born in the area; it's not a race of people. It's a fascinating history. you should read this post: https://www.thethailandlife.com/origin-thai-people
Nov 14, 2017 at 5:36 am
Martin1 says
Chinese people usually have a whiter skin than Isan people, and also the shape of Isan people's heads is completely different than Chineses' or Thais'! Even Thai-Chineses'.
When being in Bangkok I can easily identify people from Isan.
According to your theory they would look like the Central Thai-Chinese. But actually they don't!
Sep 26, 2018 at 11:30 pm
TheThailandLife says
Sep 26, 2018 at 11:48 pm
ChrisH says
Mar 24, 2022 at 11:31 am
Jim Josperine says
This being the case, isn't it therefore impossible to form an opinion on the majority of Thais, given such a narrow base from which to draw any range of competence?
Perhaps a more reasonable question posited by this article might therefore be "Are Thai People [of lower economic status] Really Lazy?", in which case the answer would perhaps be less challenging for the typical Westerner to debate, than has appeared to be the case within this thread. The foregoing notwithstanding, there is of course the rampant inequality to factor into the argument, such that there is little wonder those from less privileged backgrounds find it difficult to motivate themselves to do better. Furthermore that the nation’s wealth comes from those working in the fields and the factories – not from those driving the Benzes in Bangkok who exploit the poor.
And of course the present non-elected military crowd in power appear to be doing nothing other than to further strengthen those with power, to the detriment of the common people.
Jul 21, 2017 at 2:14 am
TheThailandLife says
Jul 21, 2017 at 3:16 am
Yasin yip says
Lol and trash fills the streets,in deference to thai trash "politrness" - ask any farang how difficult it is to meet good thai. The best rule to follow is: if a that stranger talks to you protect your wallet. A thai wife allows me to be willing to endure this, if not for her.......
Jul 12, 2017 at 3:20 pm
TheThailandLife says
Jul 14, 2017 at 3:47 am
no fake smile says
Sep 09, 2016 at 8:28 am
CJ Green says
May 14, 2017 at 12:16 am
TheThailandLife says
May 14, 2017 at 4:06 am
B C says
1. PHYSICS
a thermodynamic quantity representing the unavailability of a system's thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work, often interpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system.
2. lack of order or predictability; gradual decline into disorder.
Thai's love entropy!
It always makes me laugh to watch those soap operas on TV. Thai's living in impossibly large and wealthy houses which are always immaculate. The wealth always seems to be inherited or from a large family company... what reality is this?!
May 15, 2017 at 1:04 pm
Brad says
- the Thai/Thai fake but legal marriage. This way only one of the two needed to study to remain in Australia. I know of two 'couples' personally who did this.
- paying someone to sit in and study for you. Yes, they would have a proxy study.
- the Thai restaurant (in Australia) that pays Thai wages or not much better when minimum wage is about $15/hr. My wife worked in a Thai restaurant on about $4 an hour - no payslip, no insurance, no superannuation. The restaurant would turn over up to $12,000/night and the owner rolled in dressed to the hilt in a Mercedes. Needless to say that job was quit after 3 nights. I'm not a communist by any means but if you can't see what's wrong with that much pay difference, well...
- the Thai which rents out an appartment, sticks in a bunch of bunk beds and sub-rents to students at quite a profit. Incredibly, I've heard of these 'landlords' threatening to deport the students if they talk about it - funny, I didn't realise that they had the power of Australian immigration officers.
When you consider things like this you start to understand why Thailand has corruption. To me, corruption is a product of general society immaturity.
From the get go. I said to my wife, if we do something we put in the work and do it properly. We declare all earnings, went properly through the driving/riding licence testing, all legit with immigration, etc. In the long run we are better of and in a much better position than her friends who took the easy path.
Jun 03, 2016 at 3:44 pm
Immy says
- eg. Security guardare who is sleeping because the most boring job which sees people acting opiates. He is lazy and his boss boss dismissed him, of course.
- eg. women massage who sitting storefront massage, Maybe she will relax in during a break Or waiting for customers.
- Most Chinese people Thailand are hard work because Their
Culture Life.
- eg. Work while you work, and play while you play. So they are serious work done.
I don't Know Why this post is important why the debate. It affects people who are not well known in Thailand. I wanna tell you that if you meet Thai who are strill lazy or bad Thais, please reminded them. If you have Lazy Thai worker, please warned and chased them out of work. If you meet who is patience and perseverance, always seeking new knowledge, you have Good Gift. Thank you
May 18, 2016 at 11:35 am
TheThailandLife says
May 18, 2016 at 5:24 pm
Joe Tan says
That is the stupid attitude they have.
I have open spa, ktv and food store in bangkok and have first hand experience with them.
All they know is ใช่ ใช่ (yes yes)...
All NATO no action talk only.
I am not saying all thais are like that but majority of them are... sorry to say.
Even my friends who have thai wife also speak the same. If given another chance they would not find a thai wife... spoken out by them.
Feb 05, 2017 at 3:03 pm
Scott says
Apr 25, 2017 at 6:54 am
Brad says
Apr 26, 2017 at 10:18 am
CJ Green says
May 14, 2017 at 12:20 am
ChrisH says
Mar 24, 2022 at 11:50 am
Stan Church says
You Need To Open Your Eyes And Ears To Understand What Thai Life Is All About... Don't So Quick To Judge.....
Feb 25, 2016 at 9:01 am
TheThailandLife says
Feb 25, 2016 at 11:31 am
Brad says
Conversely, many look at westerners as being lazy. But again, why is the west better developed. Why does lazy produce better outcomes?
Feb 25, 2016 at 3:49 pm
Arson says
Mar 17, 2016 at 8:17 am
Auan says
And what a waste of time to find cloths. But thai people do not want to think,
what happens tomorrow. They just are happy, what is now. They have food,
You can sleep where every You want.
All the house are just half made, not finished. And still they say I like beauty.
But if You go to thai home, everything is on the floor in boxes and boxes are every where.
So lazy or not, but I will say thais are lazy to think and make changes. Everything have to be like Grand Mother said.
This is big problem here, if thai's do not start thinking. How many invention have made in Thailand? Not many I know.
And working, what is that? They are at the work place 10 hours and work 8 hours. Because they sleep and eat too.
Lazy or not, but they have here big problems.
Auan
Mar 29, 2016 at 8:45 pm
David says
Feb 06, 2017 at 4:14 am