You will find a huge amount of misleading information online regarding Sin Sod, and conflicting experiences can be found plastered all over forums and blogs.
So, when a foreigner wants to marry his Thai girlfriend and the inevitable subject of Sin Sod arises, it is no surprise that he becomes confused over what he should be paying and why he is expected to pay it.
Part of the problem is that Thai women often don’t explain the concept of Sin Sod very well, which isn’t at all surprising, considering that for them it’s a standard tradition and an age-old part of Thai culture.
They just get on with it. It's normal. They've seen it a hundred times at weddings since childhood. And like traditions the world over, some people simply participate and follow along without really understanding the history.
I'm married myself, and I've been to a few Thai weddings in my time. But of course, if we want to know the truth about Sin Sod, the best people to ask are Thai people themselves. So for this post, to make sure my understanding is accurate, I enlisted a couple of Thai friends to help me stay on point.
Before I begin, I am not by any means saying that the information in this post is entirely definitive or one hundred percent historically factual.
However, what I can say is that the information is the experience of myself and two Thai people, both educated and well-versed in their own culture.
Contents
What Is Sin Sod?
Sin Sod is paid to the bride's parents. It is a repayment for the investment they have put into raising their daughter, and also for the loss incurred by their daughter not being readily available to support them anymore.
It is also symbolic of the groom's ability to be able to financially take care of the bride.
Sin Sod is a very significant part of the Thai marriage tradition, and something most families take seriously. However, not all families keep the money, and in the modern day it is often returned.
The Three Components of the “Thai Dowry”
To break the meaning down further, there are generally three reasons for the payment of Sin Sod, as follows:
1. Traditionally, the eldest unmarried daughter takes care of her parents until she gets married, and therefore the Sin Sod in some respects replaces that income for the parents. As you might know, it is common for a single Thai woman to send a portion of her salary to her parents each month.
This usually stops once she is married and has her children to care for.
So, as you can imagine, for parents with no pension plan and little savings, the Sin Sod is a much-needed payday.
Richer families, who don't need the money, usually return the money because, quite simply, they don’t need it. For them, Sin Sod is more about showing status.
2. Once a woman has been married, and/or has kids, the structure of Thai society makes it very hard for her to find a man of decent stature. Therefore, the Sin Sod acts as a sort of insurance in the event that the husband leaves and doesn't offer post-separation financial support.
The bottom line is, if a woman finds herself back living with her parents as a single mother, the Sin Sod insures that there will be some money/land in the family to support the family.
Thai society also dictates that the older a Thai woman gets the harder it becomes for her to find a job, let alone a well-paid one. So again, should she find herself alone in the future, at least the family will have some money put by for some inevitably rainy years ahead.
As you can see, marriage is actually somewhat of a risk for a young woman.
3. Where poorer families are concerned, Sin Sod is considered repayment for the money invested in their daughter. Many families sell land, borrow money and generally go without to put their kids through university, or in some cases to simply put food on the table.
The Sin Sod is essentially a repayment for that investment. The amount paid for Sin Sod could be considered relative to the sacrificial cost of bringing up the child – thus the reason it is often referred to as payment for the “mother's milk”.
What Sin Sod Isn't
Some refer to Sin Sod as a dowry, but to be clear, you are not buying a woman or approaching her family to buy her.
The Western-centric viewpoint that Sin Sod equates to the purchasing of a Thai bride is completely incorrect.
To fully understand the tradition, I think it pays (pardon the pun) to put the word “dowry” out of your mind, not least because any suggestion to your future in-laws that you are purchasing their daughter will be very offensive.
Who Pays Sin Sod?
Any man marrying a Thai woman is expected to pay Sin Sod.
The amount is usually agreed between the two families. Where a foreigner's parents aren't present, the duty falls on him to ask the family how much they expect.
Who Doesn’t Pay Sin Sod?
In the modern day, many families don’t expect Sin Sod, and many will tell the boyfriend that they don’t want any money. Indeed, many young Thai women are now rejecting the tradition because of its outdated meaning.
However, it is very rare that money isn’t shown at the wedding, albeit that it might be returned.
It should be noted that to expect the money back, or to ask for it back, is unacceptable. One will be offered it back if that is to be the case.
Also note that you may not be required to pay Sin Sod if the woman you are marrying has been married before. See the section below for more details.
How Much Should You Pay for Sin Sod?
Historically this has (generally) depended on six factors, as listed and discussed below:
- Family Name
- Education
- Prior Marital Status
- Dependents
- Employment
- Age
1. Family Name
If your girlfriend is from a well-to-do family, you could be looking at a fair lump sum. However, in this situation the money will most likely be for show and returned to you after the wedding.
2. Education
If your girlfriend is university educated or beyond, then it is likely that you will be looking at a minimum of around 300,000 Baht. This is a low-moderate amount by modern-day Thai standards.
For example, a friend at my girlfriend’s workplace is soon to marry a Thai lady of a high-school level education and he is paying 200,000 Baht. His salary is approximately 30,000 per month.
3. Prior Marital Status
If your girlfriend has been married before then you should pay less. You might argue – on grounds of tradition – that you shouldn’t be paying at all. However, as a respectful gesture, you should offer something.
Remember that marriage is intended to happen once in Thai culture, and therefore importance is emphasized on marrying for the first time.
Unlike second and third marriages in the west, which may be seen as equally as important and “true love” matches, in Thailand they are not that much of a big deal. Celebrity second and third marriages are the exception to this rule.
4. Dependents
If your girlfriend has kids, tradition dictates that you should pay less.
This stems from the age-old thinking that the woman is tainted in some way, already given to another man, so to speak.
You will become responsible for another man’s seed, and for that you shouldn’t be paying for the privilege.
5. Employment
In terms of a woman's employment, it's hierarchical and usually correlates with education and earnings. For example, you'd pay/show more to marry a banker than a cleaner.
6. Age
Age is a contentious and quite horrible issue when it comes to Sin Sod.
I mean, when ex childhood superstar singer Tata Young, at almost 40 years old married Prame, the son of the FairTex boxing brand owner, she commanded 100 million Baht Sin Sod.
But for a 40-year-old woman from a poor rural family and a few kids in tow, it's unlikely that more than 200,000 Baht would be on offer.
That said, the type of guys such a woman would have access to wouldn't be able to afford more than that anyway.
But who knows, occasionally a rich man does fall for a poorer woman in good old classist Thailand, and to show his wealth he would no doubt slap down a hefty sin sod.
Age comes fairly low down on the list, though, and Sin Sod is generally decided by status, family wealth, family name and accomplishment/education of the female in question.
Want to know what I think you should pay? Leave your circumstances in the comments section and I'll give you my estimate!
My Girlfriend Is Asking For Too Much!
Many foreigners find themselves in this position, and it isn’t necessarily that your girlfriend is trying to con you, more so that she is trying to secure higher face for her family, and in some cases to elevate her family's wealth.
Face is everything in Thai society. To marry a foreigner with a Sin Sod of less than 200,000 Baht would be quite a loss of face – not just for her but also for you!
The fact that she is marrying a foreigner will mean tongues start wagging in the village.
So when you say:
“What! No way! I am not paying to marry you”
Or you announce a payment less than what an average Thai guy earning 10-15k a month would pay, you get branded a “Farang kee-nock” (literally translated as bird shit foreigner, but refers to a poor, lower class foreigner), or “Keniiow” (stingy).
The folks in the village will have a good laugh:
“Why is she marrying a foreigner when he can’t afford to pay anymore than one of us folk”?
Yes, unfortunately most Thais believe, as many westerners do, that Thai women only marry foreigners for financial security, unless of course the Thai woman is richer or as wealthy as the foreigner.
Ask Her Parents
Anyway, don't take your girlfriend’s word for it, because the tradition is that you are supposed to ask the mother and father for the amount they want. It is not for the woman to tell the man what she wants. So arrange to meet with the parents and politely ask them what they expect.
They will probably say one of two things:
1. “Oh no, mai pen rai. We don’t want anything”.
2. “It's up to you”.
The first answer doesn’t mean you say, “Okay, great”, and go and buy a new car instead.
By answering in this way they are exercising their “grengjai”. They are being polite.
What they actually mean is:
“Tell us what you WANT to pay, and you will be able to tell by our body language whether we think it’s okay or not”.
So basically you need to make out you really want to pay. As you can see, this all falls in nicely with the non-confrontational Thai style.
The second answer means, “What do you want to pay… but don’t insult me”!
*It should be noted that some families might genuinely want nothing at all.
Will You Get Your Money Back?
Chances are that you might, actually. Though don't expect it.
Interestingly, there was a poll Pantip, the popular Thai website, that surveyed a number of readers, asking whether their families returned the money.
48 out of 75 families said they returned the Money. Ten families returned only some of the money. And 17 families didn’t return any money.
All This Talk of Money Seems So Shallow!
Yes, and for the most part it is.
Sin Sod is largely about face.
“Look at my daughter, she went to university and married a good man with a good job”.
Or even, “Look at my daughter, she didn’t go to university, but she is so beautiful and hardworking that she married a lovely rich foreign guy”.
As a foreigner, you may feel like you are buying your girlfriend and have become a victim of the old “Thailand ATM” syndrome. And depending on the circumstances, that could be the case.
But if you're in a secure, genuine relationship, you need to forget what the misinformed barstool gossips say and consider your girlfriend and the culture. And yes, that's right, she too needs to consider your wallet.
Like it or not, Sin Sod is a big part of Thai culture, and, as soon as a Thai woman announces marriage, the big question on everyone's lips is, “How much Sin Sod“?
Why?
Because Sin Sod is a reflection of her and her family and you and your family.
A Thai woman lives to make her family proud, to show the other villagers that they are a good family, that they are to be respected, and that they are climbing the social scale.
I Feel I'm Compromising My Western Culture
I hear you.
I come from a culture where the woman’s father is supposed to pay all the wedding costs, though it’s more a 50-50 thing in the modern day.
But think about it like this: Your girlfriend has probably already sacrificed many of her cultural traditions to accommodate you in her life. Living with you and sleeping with you before marriage are two of those sacrifices.
Without you knowing it, she will have been the talk of her village for living with you without being married – this reflects badly on her family.
Don’t forget that you chose her as your girlfriend, and with all due respect, before getting involved with a woman from another culture, you really should understand the culture first.
On an emotional level, you need to consider that just like every Western girl dreams of a white wedding to make her daddy proud, the majority of Thai women grow up dreaming of marrying in their home town and making their parents proud with a respectable Sin Sod, and in turn elevating the family face.
The way I see it is this: An average wedding in the UK costs £20,000. So if you pay £4,000 – £6,000 to marry your Thai girlfriend in a village ceremony that costs no more than £2,000, you still save a whopping £12,000!
That said, in the UK, you get gifts and money from your girlfriend’s family, so that does offset some of the cost.
You also get money in Thailand. Guests put money in a box on their way in. We clocked up about 15,000 Baht if I remember correctly. That was a pleasant surprise.
Truth be told, you aren’t likely to get much in return at any point unless you marry into a wealthy family, but then setting up home here is cheaper, as is taking care of a woman post-marriage.
In Summary
Sin Sod isn't a recent cultural scam made up to dupe foreigners out of their savings; it has been around for donkey's years and is an expected part of every Thai wedding, although not everyone adhere's to the tradition.
Is it outdated? Probably.
Are some Thai brides using the tradition to extort older foreign men and secure a windfall for their family? A few. Where there is money to be made there is always someone seeking to exploit a situation.
In a nutshell, it is important for a foreign national marrying a Thai to understand this tradition, to know its symbolic meaning and what a fair Sin Sod is in a given circumstance.
That doesn't mean you have to agree with it, but whether you like it or not, marriage is about compromise – because it involves two people – so do your best to find some middle ground that makes both you and your partner feel comfortable.
Or, just call the whole thing off!
Feel free to pitch in with your experience. It would be really useful to know what married guys paid, or didn’t pay, and how the process was handled.
I would like to say a big thanks to Marisa and Noynar for contributing their cultural knowledge to help me write this post.
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jack says
Jul 31, 2012 at 3:01 am
jack says
You did not learn anything going around the world. Money hai tau honey hai.
She wants money, we all want it, but when you want something, it is never enough and we want more.
Now if she wanted your love, and that need grew , it would make your relationship stronger, but when her primary reason is money, you are silly to even try.
after 14 days of death, the tears stop, and after 40, people get on with normality in life and start eating and drinking as normal and after one year it is just a memory, and that applies when a loved one dies.
Do an experiment I am going to tell you to follow.
Go to thailand, find another woman and pay her to be with you, make sure she is really good looking and sexy, I guarantee it , you would forget this one, in no time.
People do not need money to love you, if they love you . Money is important in life very much, but if it is the basis of love , then it is never a permanent emotion. Hell , there are no guarantees if you had a love marriage or an arranged marriage, and here are the priorities in the correct order , if you have to make a choice.
1. YOUR HEALTH.
2. YOUR WEALTH.
3.YOUR WOMAN.
4.YOUR CHILDREN.
5.LIVING AMONGST YOUR OWN PEOPLE.
6. HAVING A STRONG POSITION IN A POLITCAL POSITION.
7. SATISFACTION THAT THERE IS NOTHING MORE LEFT AFTER ALL THIS TO HAVE OR WORTH HAVING.
What is means is when you have to choose, never give up a higher numbered priority for a lower no. one. If you end up being really lucky in life , and have all these things , then you know the gods are smiling on you, but very few people have this big a cake and can eat it.
You can take the girl out of the bar maybe , but you are not going to take the bar out of the girl. Get my meaning, What ever you do would be a temporary phase. and the longer you are in it, the more harder you will mourn.
Trust me, people eventually forget and get on with their lives with the death of their near and dear ones and try to replace them. This is nothing, that another girl cannot erase completely out of your head. You mark my words , if you follow my advise, there will come a time that you will think as to why the hell did you find her physically so attractive.
I am telling you , you mark my words. Even if you feel you cannot sleep in night, or you cannot breathe under the shower, because of this., all you need is the next one , who has the same physical qualities and the heart you will find is very easily detachable and reattachable.
there is no advise which is going to be any more truthful than this. So stop thinking about everything, follow my instructions, and find another girl from the same region who is more attractive and make friends with her. Hell make friends with a few at the same time, and see who fits you better and give yourself some choice in life. How many things of pain have you had and forgotten in life since your childhood. this is no different.
Jul 31, 2012 at 2:59 am
jack says
Just because you have thai friends and a girl friend whose words you like to believe does not make any of this correct.
Let me put the author in touch with information real and historical.
But before I do that, let me also put some real points to it. And no these has NOT come from the Horse's A**e either, because these free loaders are just brainwashed at telling you what they have learnt since childhood.
It really bothers me and gets on my wick when I hear somebody, who has had the upbringing in the west and the exposure to what should be what and just because they have had their ba**s soaked in some tw*at they start suddenly loosing all concept of ethics and reality and suddenly become , for their love of sun and sex all so very culturally aware and informed.
I will also give you the real origins of sinsod in a minute but first, if you have sex and bear children , then they are your responsibility until they are adults and independent.
If you bear them with the thought that they will look after you in old age, then that is up to the individual. If you bear them and raise them up in the hope that someday , somebody is going to come and pay good money for them, then that is no different to animal farming.
If you have children then providing , love care and education is your parental duty.
If you think , oh, my daughter if gets married and goes away, shall dent my income, then shame on you for being a parent, because what do you want her to do, not have a life and just look after you and see to your needs of hungry for money attitude.
But then the whole nation is at it , including the system, where people value money more than their own families.
If a parent can sit and think , that a daughter is better of being single and staying home to provide her with an income, rather than some true loving man caring for her , until such time a good lump sump can be demanded and gotten for her , then no matter how you put it , it is selling your child.
Thai's do not have high ethics. They do not see any problem with their daughters and wives prostituting , for money , since their needs are more greedier than their sense of self respect.
Now I am sure there is a small percentage of Thais who are not in the same category. but on the whole the majority are like that.
And what is Sinsod really. It is as the author puts it , A compensation payment for the investment the parents have made in their daughter. Wow, and that is not selling to recoup your costs and a payment inflation proofed for the years to come . grow up , it is called selling.
This is how it came a long time ago. Most Thai's could not tell you that or would not tell you that even if they knew it, because it exposes the true face of this so called tradition .
This is what happened and was started by rich Arabs, who preyed on poor people for their sexual gratification. They did this in many places in Asia and Africa.
I cannot remember the African country where this dowry in exchange of a girl became a tradition alongwith Thailand
These people , were born rich, and have the tendency to take many women and add them to their stock and still refer to them as wives. So much so , they sometimes married a woman who they looked at and felt horny at the time and added her to their collection of wives.
Now how did they do that. They bought them. But then you can't say to somebody sell me your child , because I am a dirty old man and am lusting after your barely legal age daughter, or even a young child for that matter.
So they invented this payment in kind as a custom, and said to poor parents who sometimes were just too greedy and sometimes just too needy , and sold them this concept of , that I will look after you daughter. And I guarantee that with this advance payment for you and her , in case I falter. And then justified to them that they did a beautiful job of raising a daughter and gave birth and fed and looked after her and that this was an appreciation of their hard work.
900 years ago the Indian priests and monks were spreading religion in Thailand , but the Thais forgot all about that and Buddha's real teachings some 4 centuries later, and got drawn into the material world at any cost . including selling their daughters.
The display of wealth and a higher status commands their ethics and not Buddhism now, which incidentally teaches to the contrary, to not to get attached to material things for one shall die and take nothing with them when they go.
sadly the japanese and then the americans introduction of open market short term buying of affection or otherwise known as prostitution, once took stronghold, the Thais forgot everything else about the spiritual and limited their outlook to greed and pomp and show and became just hungry for money individuals. surely people living in far out places and fit and working on a farm are self reliant and do not need to sell their daughters for money , but look for suitable matches who would love them , and not pay the highest prices. the amount of money is the real consideration and not how old the man is relative to the girl.
Now I am money hungry a lot , but then I am not Thai and would not do certain things for money or for anything.
and in conclusion, any self respecting parent will hang themselves than to sell their daughters.
But the modern farang has so forgotten their own history and want to live life to the full frequenting the bars and pubs for alcohol and sex and the ones who seem to fall in love are the ones , want to so badly believe to justify their love being real by believing in customs, which they would'nt dare to follow with their own daughters, or would they if they become truly corrupted too.
Jul 21, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Xiaoma says
But important things first: compliments to Peter for his really really amazing blog. And thanks to all the other readers posting intelligent comments (just ignore the couple of trolls and we all will be fine)
Now Mr Jack, I can see and somewhat understand why you come up with this distorted view of a foreign culture you totally fail to understand, but I cannot let that bunch of made up historic falsities pass by unanswered.
At first, blaming the Arabs... that itself is so stereotypical it doesn't need an answer. Just trying to remind you that the Sin Sod tradition (as many other South Asia traditions) has nothing to do with middle-eastern culture, but comes from thousand of years of Chinese tradition. Are you not aware that Thai people moved where they are now from the south of China? And the Chinese had complex marriage rules long before there was even an Arabic civilization.
Oh, and then blaming Japanese and Americans for "inventing" the prostitution, now that is funny... why do you think that is called "the oldest profession in history"? Do you really think there were no prostitutes in Thailand before the USA even existed?
Very kind of you to accept there may be "a small percentage of Thais" who have any ethics. That makes them a lot better than most internet trolls (yes, the guys like you). Now I'm bored of talking about this "utter nonsense" so I'm off. Get a life.
Oct 28, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Raymond says
I wish to thank you so much for your time and effort that it took for you to write you piece of "straight normal thinking".
I've comming to thailand now for 10 years, learnt the language 7 years age learnt reading and writting Thai 5 years and now learning the Issan language. Met many Thai women. But the more I learn about their Thai mentality and thinking, it makes me think "hang-on a minute, I don't want be apart of this stupidity".
Fact 1: A Thai buddest marriage is NOT A LEGAL marriage, no matter if you pay no sinsot or 100 million US dollors. This type of marriage is not reconized under Thai law.
Fact 2: A Thai marrage at the District office is A LEGAL marriage and costs 60baht. This type of marriage is reconized under Thai law.
Thai culture is NOT the same as Thai law.
My girlfreinds parents want 300,000Baht sinsod and under their Thai culture they are surposed to ask the grooms parents for this money and not the groom. As I can't speak Issan and Thai now, I've often asked some of the more sincere people here "Why do Thai ladies look for farangs when their are many rich Thai men here?" and their replies were "Their parents will not pay the sinsot if they are marrying down".
I mother has refused and forbids me to pay, in fact she says that they should be paying you! - as she would be marrying up and have a chance to live in the west (even thought I have been honest and told my GF that London is paved with stone and not gold).
I would advise any farang whose Thai GF wants sinsod is to talk with their mother or a close female friend in the west first. Why? Because a western woman don't think with their dick, because they don't have one :)
Thanks again Jack and good luck.
Kind regards
Raymond
Apr 29, 2013 at 12:36 pm
TheThailandLife says
Apr 29, 2013 at 1:54 pm
Raymond says
You know very well that someone who is branded as a "farang keenok (shit farang)" or even a western homeless tramp has a higher status of a Thai as they don't need visas to travel. Thais need visas and in most cases a guarantor for the UK for a reason. One reason is that the British goverment knows that they are likely going to rip-off the state. Why should us westerners take care of people who blow all their wages on booze and fags, when they could be paying into a pension fund? - yes all Thai banks can set up pension funds for Thais.
Their are some British couples who have a small do and a registery office marriage costing less than a couple of hundred quid. I've even known a couple to have their wedding reception on Clapham Common where all the guests brought ther own food and drink.
And nobody what so ever looked down on these people.
Once you learn and understand Sakdina, you will understand Thai culture and their mentality of thinking.
Fortunatly their are a small percentage of Thai who oppose the sinsot and Sakdina way of life and these are the women who you want to meet.
Apr 29, 2013 at 3:19 pm
TheThailandLife says
Apr 29, 2013 at 3:59 pm
roshe says
first very very great blog i ever know. great shares and experience. i visited thailand more than four times, as i go there every year to get relaxed for about a week. last visit a met a thai girl and realised i cant live without her. I share my feelings with her and she told me was married before and divocered and having two daughters. She is working in bar because she dont have any other option of earning money. Her parents are died and her elder sister takes care of her childrens. she told me she cant come with me as she is the sole earner of her family. i asked how much money she spend on her family and the answer is about 30000 baht a month considering her two kids.
Brother i stay in india and getting about USD2000/- as a salary so it is almost immpossible to pay her USD1000/- a month. But i know i cant live without her. please advise what to do bcoz i think i loosing my weight, i m not feeling well
pleeeease heeeeeelp bro.
Jul 21, 2012 at 2:15 pm
TheThailandLife says
Jul 21, 2012 at 9:45 pm
roshe says
I am sure you are the only person who helps me out of this situation. I already accepted that working in a bar in pattaya, she met many farangs but a very strong monetary reason is behind her decision. Being a Indian relationship is given top priority and relationship with divorced woman can’t be accepted at all. Living with her is a very toughest decision of my life.
Being a seafarer I travelled almost all over the world and met many girls. I know girls strategy very well as it is their everyday business but I never been tricked or trapped in them. This is the first time I can’t make any decision. If I make any wrong decision I can’t forgive myself if she is genuine and if she plays with my feelings…….
One of my friend from Italy who is making 5000 euro a month stays in Thailand for a entire winter with her lady as he finds very difficult to carry her with him to Italy.
I think, I have to spend some more time with her and I will try to understand her family and thai life, psychology. I kept my finger crossed.
May be after winter I visit Thailand. Surely contact you and please don’t mind if I mailed you again for any updates or your suggestion. If your heart is good you find everything good. My heart is clean.
Talking to you gives me great relief. 50% fog is cleared, rest I will clean with your help.
Thanks again bro.
And the better part is I started looking more resources to earn money may be I need it to start better relationship.
Jul 28, 2012 at 7:52 pm
danny says
I am looking to marry a thai lady next year and don’t have to much of a problem with the thought of sin sod. I have been regularly travelling back to thailand over the last 10 years and think I owe the place. I also love my fiancé and do want the wedding to be done in the right culture.
I only had a problem when as mentioned in a few past posts after i had agreed a figure I found out that it had gone back to the family and come back doubled and then some. This put a lot of pressure on my fiance to negotiate on what I had already agreed. After some traumatic chats have now increased the sin sod to a value and I am happy with and can afford still. In my mind the extra money will be used to cover the ceremony and a reception. I don’t expect to get any back after the ceremony but if i do I won’t complain :) Maybe I will post again as i get closer to the date with an update.
I did see a few posts about people putting money into accounts for the family. I haven’t actually thought about what happens at the ceremony. It is a large sum of cash to be left lying around after the ceremony. Do the family take it straight away or do you get back after ceremony and then go deposit at the bank.
Jul 20, 2012 at 5:08 am
TheThailandLife says
Keep us updated!
Jul 20, 2012 at 10:49 am
Graham says
Jul 03, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Graham says
Jul 01, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Graham says
What I am trying to establish beforehand is how much is reasonable to be expected to send back to her family each month? They are (relatively) poor farmers.
thanks
Jul 01, 2012 at 8:48 pm
TheThailandLife says
Jul 02, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Lloyd says
I think the answer can only be found within your own, and your future wifes, own discussions on the matter anything else is introducing heresay and arguably more fiction than fact to an equation that is already fraught with emotion.
Jul 08, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Mr Wat says
women been married already or never when her marry again have to pay sinsod
how much sinsod up to family her not they bring her up not depends 1.Family Name
2.Education
3.Prior Marital Status
4.Dependants
5.Job
6.Age
i want you know real about that then you can put on internet because no good for not know real and put on internet then make damage of my cultur and my tradition did you know ? some women who married already can marry again sissod more than frist time so sinsod depands her family not depends something anything
Jun 28, 2012 at 8:12 am
TheThailandLife says
Jun 28, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Steve says
Did I read this figure correctly? Even if you drop a "0" off the end its still an outrageous amount. Surely something has been lost in translation??
May 24, 2012 at 9:32 pm