You will find a huge amount of misleading information online regarding Sin Sod, and conflicting experiences can be found plastered all over forums and blogs.
So, when a foreigner wants to marry his Thai girlfriend and the inevitable subject of Sin Sod arises, it is no surprise that he becomes confused over what he should be paying and why he is expected to pay it.
Part of the problem is that Thai women often don’t explain the concept of Sin Sod very well, which isn’t at all surprising, considering that for them it’s a standard tradition and an age-old part of Thai culture.
They just get on with it. It's normal. They've seen it a hundred times at weddings since childhood. And like traditions the world over, some people simply participate and follow along without really understanding the history.
I'm married myself, and I've been to a few Thai weddings in my time. But of course, if we want to know the truth about Sin Sod, the best people to ask are Thai people themselves. So for this post, to make sure my understanding is accurate, I enlisted a couple of Thai friends to help me stay on point.
Before I begin, I am not by any means saying that the information in this post is entirely definitive or one hundred percent historically factual.
However, what I can say is that the information is the experience of myself and two Thai people, both educated and well-versed in their own culture.
Contents
What Is Sin Sod?
Sin Sod is paid to the bride's parents. It is a repayment for the investment they have put into raising their daughter, and also for the loss incurred by their daughter not being readily available to support them anymore.
It is also symbolic of the groom's ability to be able to financially take care of the bride.
Sin Sod is a very significant part of the Thai marriage tradition, and something most families take seriously. However, not all families keep the money, and in the modern day it is often returned.
The Three Components of the “Thai Dowry”
To break the meaning down further, there are generally three reasons for the payment of Sin Sod, as follows:
1. Traditionally, the eldest unmarried daughter takes care of her parents until she gets married, and therefore the Sin Sod in some respects replaces that income for the parents. As you might know, it is common for a single Thai woman to send a portion of her salary to her parents each month.
This usually stops once she is married and has her children to care for.
So, as you can imagine, for parents with no pension plan and little savings, the Sin Sod is a much-needed payday.
Richer families, who don't need the money, usually return the money because, quite simply, they don’t need it. For them, Sin Sod is more about showing status.
2. Once a woman has been married, and/or has kids, the structure of Thai society makes it very hard for her to find a man of decent stature. Therefore, the Sin Sod acts as a sort of insurance in the event that the husband leaves and doesn't offer post-separation financial support.
The bottom line is, if a woman finds herself back living with her parents as a single mother, the Sin Sod insures that there will be some money/land in the family to support the family.
Thai society also dictates that the older a Thai woman gets the harder it becomes for her to find a job, let alone a well-paid one. So again, should she find herself alone in the future, at least the family will have some money put by for some inevitably rainy years ahead.
As you can see, marriage is actually somewhat of a risk for a young woman.
3. Where poorer families are concerned, Sin Sod is considered repayment for the money invested in their daughter. Many families sell land, borrow money and generally go without to put their kids through university, or in some cases to simply put food on the table.
The Sin Sod is essentially a repayment for that investment. The amount paid for Sin Sod could be considered relative to the sacrificial cost of bringing up the child – thus the reason it is often referred to as payment for the “mother's milk”.
What Sin Sod Isn't
Some refer to Sin Sod as a dowry, but to be clear, you are not buying a woman or approaching her family to buy her.
The Western-centric viewpoint that Sin Sod equates to the purchasing of a Thai bride is completely incorrect.
To fully understand the tradition, I think it pays (pardon the pun) to put the word “dowry” out of your mind, not least because any suggestion to your future in-laws that you are purchasing their daughter will be very offensive.
Who Pays Sin Sod?
Any man marrying a Thai woman is expected to pay Sin Sod.
The amount is usually agreed between the two families. Where a foreigner's parents aren't present, the duty falls on him to ask the family how much they expect.
Who Doesn’t Pay Sin Sod?
In the modern day, many families don’t expect Sin Sod, and many will tell the boyfriend that they don’t want any money. Indeed, many young Thai women are now rejecting the tradition because of its outdated meaning.
However, it is very rare that money isn’t shown at the wedding, albeit that it might be returned.
It should be noted that to expect the money back, or to ask for it back, is unacceptable. One will be offered it back if that is to be the case.
Also note that you may not be required to pay Sin Sod if the woman you are marrying has been married before. See the section below for more details.
How Much Should You Pay for Sin Sod?
Historically this has (generally) depended on six factors, as listed and discussed below:
- Family Name
- Education
- Prior Marital Status
- Dependents
- Employment
- Age
1. Family Name
If your girlfriend is from a well-to-do family, you could be looking at a fair lump sum. However, in this situation the money will most likely be for show and returned to you after the wedding.
2. Education
If your girlfriend is university educated or beyond, then it is likely that you will be looking at a minimum of around 300,000 Baht. This is a low-moderate amount by modern-day Thai standards.
For example, a friend at my girlfriend’s workplace is soon to marry a Thai lady of a high-school level education and he is paying 200,000 Baht. His salary is approximately 30,000 per month.
3. Prior Marital Status
If your girlfriend has been married before then you should pay less. You might argue – on grounds of tradition – that you shouldn’t be paying at all. However, as a respectful gesture, you should offer something.
Remember that marriage is intended to happen once in Thai culture, and therefore importance is emphasized on marrying for the first time.
Unlike second and third marriages in the west, which may be seen as equally as important and “true love” matches, in Thailand they are not that much of a big deal. Celebrity second and third marriages are the exception to this rule.
4. Dependents
If your girlfriend has kids, tradition dictates that you should pay less.
This stems from the age-old thinking that the woman is tainted in some way, already given to another man, so to speak.
You will become responsible for another man’s seed, and for that you shouldn’t be paying for the privilege.
5. Employment
In terms of a woman's employment, it's hierarchical and usually correlates with education and earnings. For example, you'd pay/show more to marry a banker than a cleaner.
6. Age
Age is a contentious and quite horrible issue when it comes to Sin Sod.
I mean, when ex childhood superstar singer Tata Young, at almost 40 years old married Prame, the son of the FairTex boxing brand owner, she commanded 100 million Baht Sin Sod.
But for a 40-year-old woman from a poor rural family and a few kids in tow, it's unlikely that more than 200,000 Baht would be on offer.
That said, the type of guys such a woman would have access to wouldn't be able to afford more than that anyway.
But who knows, occasionally a rich man does fall for a poorer woman in good old classist Thailand, and to show his wealth he would no doubt slap down a hefty sin sod.
Age comes fairly low down on the list, though, and Sin Sod is generally decided by status, family wealth, family name and accomplishment/education of the female in question.
Want to know what I think you should pay? Leave your circumstances in the comments section and I'll give you my estimate!
My Girlfriend Is Asking For Too Much!
Many foreigners find themselves in this position, and it isn’t necessarily that your girlfriend is trying to con you, more so that she is trying to secure higher face for her family, and in some cases to elevate her family's wealth.
Face is everything in Thai society. To marry a foreigner with a Sin Sod of less than 200,000 Baht would be quite a loss of face – not just for her but also for you!
The fact that she is marrying a foreigner will mean tongues start wagging in the village.
So when you say:
“What! No way! I am not paying to marry you”
Or you announce a payment less than what an average Thai guy earning 10-15k a month would pay, you get branded a “Farang kee-nock” (literally translated as bird shit foreigner, but refers to a poor, lower class foreigner), or “Keniiow” (stingy).
The folks in the village will have a good laugh:
“Why is she marrying a foreigner when he can’t afford to pay anymore than one of us folk”?
Yes, unfortunately most Thais believe, as many westerners do, that Thai women only marry foreigners for financial security, unless of course the Thai woman is richer or as wealthy as the foreigner.
Ask Her Parents
Anyway, don't take your girlfriend’s word for it, because the tradition is that you are supposed to ask the mother and father for the amount they want. It is not for the woman to tell the man what she wants. So arrange to meet with the parents and politely ask them what they expect.
They will probably say one of two things:
1. “Oh no, mai pen rai. We don’t want anything”.
2. “It's up to you”.
The first answer doesn’t mean you say, “Okay, great”, and go and buy a new car instead.
By answering in this way they are exercising their “grengjai”. They are being polite.
What they actually mean is:
“Tell us what you WANT to pay, and you will be able to tell by our body language whether we think it’s okay or not”.
So basically you need to make out you really want to pay. As you can see, this all falls in nicely with the non-confrontational Thai style.
The second answer means, “What do you want to pay… but don’t insult me”!
*It should be noted that some families might genuinely want nothing at all.
Will You Get Your Money Back?
Chances are that you might, actually. Though don't expect it.
Interestingly, there was a poll Pantip, the popular Thai website, that surveyed a number of readers, asking whether their families returned the money.
48 out of 75 families said they returned the Money. Ten families returned only some of the money. And 17 families didn’t return any money.
All This Talk of Money Seems So Shallow!
Yes, and for the most part it is.
Sin Sod is largely about face.
“Look at my daughter, she went to university and married a good man with a good job”.
Or even, “Look at my daughter, she didn’t go to university, but she is so beautiful and hardworking that she married a lovely rich foreign guy”.
As a foreigner, you may feel like you are buying your girlfriend and have become a victim of the old “Thailand ATM” syndrome. And depending on the circumstances, that could be the case.
But if you're in a secure, genuine relationship, you need to forget what the misinformed barstool gossips say and consider your girlfriend and the culture. And yes, that's right, she too needs to consider your wallet.
Like it or not, Sin Sod is a big part of Thai culture, and, as soon as a Thai woman announces marriage, the big question on everyone's lips is, “How much Sin Sod“?
Why?
Because Sin Sod is a reflection of her and her family and you and your family.
A Thai woman lives to make her family proud, to show the other villagers that they are a good family, that they are to be respected, and that they are climbing the social scale.
I Feel I'm Compromising My Western Culture
I hear you.
I come from a culture where the woman’s father is supposed to pay all the wedding costs, though it’s more a 50-50 thing in the modern day.
But think about it like this: Your girlfriend has probably already sacrificed many of her cultural traditions to accommodate you in her life. Living with you and sleeping with you before marriage are two of those sacrifices.
Without you knowing it, she will have been the talk of her village for living with you without being married – this reflects badly on her family.
Don’t forget that you chose her as your girlfriend, and with all due respect, before getting involved with a woman from another culture, you really should understand the culture first.
On an emotional level, you need to consider that just like every Western girl dreams of a white wedding to make her daddy proud, the majority of Thai women grow up dreaming of marrying in their home town and making their parents proud with a respectable Sin Sod, and in turn elevating the family face.
The way I see it is this: An average wedding in the UK costs £20,000. So if you pay £4,000 – £6,000 to marry your Thai girlfriend in a village ceremony that costs no more than £2,000, you still save a whopping £12,000!
That said, in the UK, you get gifts and money from your girlfriend’s family, so that does offset some of the cost.
You also get money in Thailand. Guests put money in a box on their way in. We clocked up about 15,000 Baht if I remember correctly. That was a pleasant surprise.
Truth be told, you aren’t likely to get much in return at any point unless you marry into a wealthy family, but then setting up home here is cheaper, as is taking care of a woman post-marriage.
In Summary
Sin Sod isn't a recent cultural scam made up to dupe foreigners out of their savings; it has been around for donkey's years and is an expected part of every Thai wedding, although not everyone adhere's to the tradition.
Is it outdated? Probably.
Are some Thai brides using the tradition to extort older foreign men and secure a windfall for their family? A few. Where there is money to be made there is always someone seeking to exploit a situation.
In a nutshell, it is important for a foreign national marrying a Thai to understand this tradition, to know its symbolic meaning and what a fair Sin Sod is in a given circumstance.
That doesn't mean you have to agree with it, but whether you like it or not, marriage is about compromise – because it involves two people – so do your best to find some middle ground that makes both you and your partner feel comfortable.
Or, just call the whole thing off!
Feel free to pitch in with your experience. It would be really useful to know what married guys paid, or didn’t pay, and how the process was handled.
I would like to say a big thanks to Marisa and Noynar for contributing their cultural knowledge to help me write this post.
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David says
Jul 12, 2016 at 2:27 am
TheThailandLife says
Jul 12, 2016 at 4:10 pm
Professor says
I know of what I speak, and I can almost guarantee you it is a recipe for financial and emotional disaster.
Jul 30, 2016 at 6:04 pm
Adam West says
Feb 19, 2017 at 10:38 am
manga1977 says
Jul 09, 2016 at 5:13 am
TheThailandLife says
Jul 10, 2016 at 3:29 pm
manga1977 says
Jul 11, 2016 at 3:45 am
Professor says
Answer = nothing
You will in almost all situations where a foreigner is marrying a Thai, be upgrading her life. Forget about her status (unless you're that shallow that you care about such meaningless crap).
Prostitutes are for short term sexual relief and entertainment. Your existence as a man, especially if you're a western man, is far more significant than discarding it for a definitely meaningless belief as far as you are concerned. More importantly, the hookers should be thanking you as few Thais would bring such a person home with a marriage proposal on offer.
Of course the hooker may see you as a replacement of her freelance income but rest assured in most cases you will fail in your attempts to bring her out of that life, especially if she is under 35. Even past 35, it will be a major task since her views have long been shaped by the notion that she is entitled to your money by then.
I believe there are more Thai women who are not interested in your money and are more than happy to chip in. Not that I needed it, but I made sure my wife chips in the expenses. She pays a third of the monthly bill not because I'm in need of her money but because if she loves me she better prove it by chipping in. Otherwise, out the door.
Guys - you are the asset. Stop acting like pussies cow towing to these desperadoes who see you as their meal ticket. They know their worth in Thai society which is why they look at you, the foreigner, as their last attempt to redeem their status. Yet, they will fail in most cases because poverty is a mindset. Do you want to go down with their poverty driven ways?
Jul 03, 2016 at 12:13 pm
TheThailandLife says
Jul 03, 2016 at 8:09 pm
vex says
If you have no interest in respecting and following there laws/culture then just leave them alone they did just fine before you went there.
I personally would not want a partner who walks away from her heritage and family for financial gain.
Such a small price to pay (money) for the best reward in life ( a loyal, loving partner).
Jul 07, 2016 at 11:25 am
Professor says
I come from Canada, I would like to see how many of these people you feel I disrespect would sacrifice their culture to live and respect my culture?
Culture is myth. It differs not only from one country to another, from one family to another. You'll never get one straight answer about anything related to culture. So there's nothing to hold on to and nothing to give up (except your money if you're a fool, in which case, serves you right).
And no, I am not white. I am of Asian origin.
Jul 30, 2016 at 6:08 pm
Professor says
Jul 07, 2016 at 12:17 pm
Professor says
Perhaps they are guilted into it by their families. I am sure, if your family guilted you into entering prostitution, you would make the importance decision based on what YOU think is right to do, not what you parents demand of you.
But white knights shall never learn. No matter how much you help a hooker, she is that. There are many many women in Thailand who come from impoverished families who do not choose to enter the field.
As my (Thai) wife always reminds me, the hookers are lazy, they CHOOSE to be hookers because it's fun and easy work (as far they are concerned). Perhaps, here and there, a woman enters and does not enjoy this work. So she tries to leave and find more acceptable work in society, only to discover those jobs require effort for pay. They then return to the sex scene. It's just too easy, especially when one is young.
You've only painted it as a horrific ordeal for these women. I can tell you as a matter of FACT and EXPERIENCE that many women have chosen this path despite having a foreign man 'take care' of financial needs, and UPGRADE their lives in many ways.
But to stay on topic of Sin Sod (dowry). Like rampant prostitution, it is a deeply entrenched part of Thai culture, much as honour killing is a part of other cultures. But you go on upholding the importance of it for your own peace of mind.
Jul 07, 2016 at 12:27 pm
Professor says
Or maybe it's just better for a Thai woman to marry a Thai.
Is that your point?
Jul 07, 2016 at 12:36 pm
Mik says
If you're really a Professor, then you should be fired from your job. I pity you.
People have different cultures, some follow it, some doesn't follow it, it depends on the family and the person itself. The same goes to your 'Wife', if you really do have a 'Wife'.
That's their belief. So, Who the Hell are you to degrade those Thai women and their families who follow generations of traditions that their family follows?
Don't go blasting other people's culture just because you don't like it.
Three words that describe you?
Bigoted, Misogynist, Pig.
Jul 16, 2016 at 11:52 am
Professor says
As for the name calling, very mature of you.
I call myself what I want, and I say whatever I want. It's MY CULTURE.
And yes, I do have a wife, been together 10 years to this date. No dowries, no monks, no requests for payments or financial assistance. And never came to a forum or blog to ask ...
No, I am not a bigoted, misogynist pig.
My Thai wife loves me, respects my views, understands that if something is not right for one person in a relationship, then it's not for the relationship.
If something is not right in my own culture, I call it what it is.
It's called being honest with yourself and with your partner.
If you choose to be a beta male sheep dog (well known for name calling), you have my blessing.
Jul 30, 2016 at 6:15 pm
Professor says
Just because something has been happening for a long time, doesn't make it right.
Like slavery. Get it?
Jul 30, 2016 at 6:18 pm
Qualified Professor says
Aug 03, 2016 at 11:45 am
Mik says
Someone calling himself a Qualified Professor and handing out stupid, bigoted comments (also defending it in a paranoid manner) is just too cringy. And yes, you're a Bigoted, Misogynist Pig.
You do know that you contradicted yourself in your comments?
One moment, you said 'No, I'm not a Bigot and Misogynist', then in the next comment, you said 'Yes, call me a Misogynist Bigot since it's 2016' shit? Make up your damn mind. But yeah, that's kinda funny with you being all defensive and shit. :)
Were you really affected by that comment to give out 3 replies? LOL!!
I'd rather be a 'beta' male than a bigass bigoted jerk who can't take the time to know and understand the culture of others. Blasting sin sod just because you don't like it is a pretty douche move. Comparing Sin Sod to killings and slavery is also pretty idiotic.
Not all sin sod are scams. It's a tradition.
Take your own advice, do it yourself. Read and Learn. Who the hell said any culture being inferior to other cultures? I pity your (imaginary) thai wife.
And please, if you're gonna reply to this comment, 1 reply will suffice. It's funny how you get so paranoid.
Aug 07, 2016 at 10:00 am
Very qualified professor says
Let's not keep harping on my qualifications. First you show me you can live with a Thai woman for 10+ years harmoniously without spending all your money to keep her there. Then you can screenshot all you like ok?
Sep 30, 2016 at 6:46 am
Qualified Professor says
So the last person I will be taking advice from about learning or reading is you. I'm fluent in Thai, I've lived around the world. I am fully aware of different cultures and respecting them.
That does not mean YOUR or MY culture is inferior to theirs.
You seem to think that respecting whatever a Thai woman or her family tells you makes you some kind of liberal non-misogynist?
I've been with my VERY REAL wife for more than 10 years. I don't know about you, but my wife does not and has never expected payment of any kind to stay with me.
She pays her own way, she contributes to the house and the bills. There's nothing imaginary about this, I assure you.
And there is nothing imaginary - nor unqualified about me.
Comparing a cultural requirement is not silly. If someone wants to take your money and tells you it's culture, you should be wise enough to recognize it.
If it's ceremonial, and will be returned, AS IS CUSTOM, then no issues.
Sep 30, 2016 at 6:55 am
Ardesal says
Aug 02, 2016 at 11:35 pm
Stanley says
Just wondering about engagement rings, is it normal for the man to buy an engagement ring for himself as well as the woman? Or is the engagement ring only to be worn by the woman and the man only wears a wedding band come the wedding. Thanks in advance!
Jun 26, 2016 at 7:21 pm
TheThailandLife says
Jun 26, 2016 at 10:48 pm
Stanley says
Jun 26, 2016 at 10:51 pm
JD says
Jun 16, 2016 at 11:07 pm
TheThailandLife says
Jun 17, 2016 at 12:26 pm
Jamluv says
Sin sot is honestly speaking not a uniquely Thai concept. If I was to marry traditionally, I would be expected to send my uncles to her uncles to discuss lobola (a sort of fee to show that I am willing to commit to her and the fee is normally not so high that I must be in debt for years on end yet still not so low that I will be keen to take a second wife). Unfortunately, in modern days and a westernized society, this time honoured African tradition has backfired: fewer and fewer men marry. It is seen as an impractical absurd and expensive exercise which honestly is not really helping the man with anything. After all, many couples cohabit, have children and eventually marry at the court.
The "face" element of a huge sin sod gained by a bar girl only tells me she must have piles of filth if it requires that much sin sod face wash. You'd probably do better finding a girl away from bars and live a happy scam free life.
Personally, I wouldn't kiss a prostitute on her lips, never mind dating one! I'm open minded and have no race issues so whomever I decide to marry, would certainly not be a girl I met selling her body and surely wouldn't be after two week exotic holiday. That's just how I feel, feel free to feel otherwise, just don't go painting millions of Thai women as gold digging whores when really you are the one shopping for fresh and hot baked bread in the frozen food section!
I sincerely enjoyed reading up on this blog! TY TTL!
Jun 16, 2016 at 8:10 pm
TheThailandLife says
Jun 17, 2016 at 12:16 pm
John Reeves says
Jun 05, 2016 at 11:31 am
TheThailandLife says
Jun 05, 2016 at 10:18 pm
Israel says
1.-FAMILY NAME: In my own perspective regarding my Thai woman … family name is not an issue/irrelevant for calculation purposes (I could be completely wrong depending on your interpretation after you reading all my remarks)…. However according to her (my Thai woman), her Mother and Father is well known in her ‘village’, they are farm work class family who take care of two grandchildren (from another daughter).
I had the opportunity to meet and live for about 5 days with my Thai woman Mother and Father which have a humble house and some farm land, no one has air conditioning and in my eyes I considered them financially disadvantage to a degree because my Thai woman has TWO older sisters*. ONE* sister lives in Chon Buri (near Pattaya city) which is married to a Thai gentleman and (I assume) both send money to my Thai woman’s Father and Mother because they take care of the two grandchildren a boy (about 5 yrs. old) and a girl (about 10 yrs. old). SECOND* sister (or brother, I do not really recall) is married and lives in England, I do not know anything else. I must say that I really like her Mother and Father (and all the characters (friends & family) in their village :)) I tried asking how much should I offer and Father answered with ‘… up to you’, I said we can discuss in the future. The only thing I can say is that I would like to help them monthly basis just like my Thai woman is been doing it (she says she used to send 15,000.00 to 20,000.00 bahts monthly for food.
2.-EDUCATION: No University, I believe she finished elementary school or finished or almost finished high school.
3.PRIOR MARITAL STATUS: My Thai woman was engaged to a prior gentleman but never married officially and the relationship ended. That is the only information my Thai woman has provided me.
4.-DEPENDENTS. None (no children), unless we consider my Thai woman’s Mother & Father.
5.-JOB. Please read: I will be honest to you my dear reader, just like I have been telling her to be honest with me and with immigration application for her to come to U.S.A (in progress). I met her at an ‘a-go-go bar’ on April 28, 2016 (before I spent several days in Angkor Wat/Siem Reap Cambodia), she was ‘bar fined’ and even though I could go out with another lady (or many ladies) with me ending up paying a ‘bar fine’ on this or other establishments, I did not do it, so before she left with ‘customer’ I told her I will be back tomorrow. Well next day April 29, 2016 I arrive late again and she just got ‘bar fined’ again, so I paid bar fine for April 30, 2016 (one day prior). I really was intrigued about her and no one else [I like the fact that I never saw her in ‘a go go bar’ outfit or dancing... ever] (believe me when I say –sexuality was set aside in my being- and to tell you the truth I know I am not the most handsome man, but I definitely do not consider myself unattractive and I could continue dating women back in U.S.A. but I have been taken to the cleaners date after date and when I finally married and now I am divorced I just have about $60,000.00 U.S. dollars in debt ). Anyhow on April 30, 2016 I told her about myself and ask her if she likes working there, which she tells me she does it for her mother and father, she tells me she does not like her ‘job,’ she tell me she sends mother and father about 15,000.00 to 20,000.00 bahts. I tell her that I am looking for someone that practice Buddhism, but most importantly someone that is willing to give their heart to a man, not just ‘body’ for compromised. I mentioned I was a combat Veteran in the U.S. military, I done many actions I am not proud off, I accept full responsibility of my past actions and expect no one to judge my past, I tell her I can certainly ignored her past if she is willing to stop working on such environment, why you may ask? because she stole my heart. I left back to U.S.A on May 1, 2016, we kept in touch, and she invites me to go with her family in her village. I book a ticket and I arrive on Thailand May 12, 2016, I tell her that if our relationship is serious, she cannot go back to work to any a go-go bar. She tells me she will stay in her village until comes to U.S.A. with me. One of her brother’s is a Buddhist monk which traveled with her family… wow was he philosophically humanistic insightful! ….
--- I don’t know if I should mention to her family (including her brother the Buddhist Monk) about her previous ‘job’ which she did for 6 months… but if we take in consideration this section about ‘JOB’ I don’t really know how kind I should be or not offering at all… --- feedback will be greatly appreciate.
6. AGE: 23 yrs. old about to turn 24 yrs. old.
Please read above, analyzing fact and my current circumstance ‘should I still offer anything’? Plus, I want to be nice about offering money, but I can only offer a few because of debt, immigration procedures, my own living expenses and most importantly planning a legit future for us. I WOULD be extremely grateful for any input about my writing (please forgive spelling errors and/or side stories, but I just don’t have the time to concentrate for an accurate summary of my inquiry).
-Israel
FYI/PS: I told her, “if you want money, tell me how much you want, I will send you the amount you want, (I will find a way to give her the amount as I have a good paying job) and I told her after you received money I will wish you to be happy and you will not hear from me. Don’t break my heart, is all I am asking.”
May 26, 2016 at 6:43 am
TheThailandLife says
May 29, 2016 at 2:53 pm
tony tabletop says
May 24, 2016 at 12:40 am
TheThailandLife says
May 24, 2016 at 4:37 pm
Jose says
I have a gf in bkk. She works and has big, big debts. Spends more then earns. She has a Uni degree, no parents ( they died long ago) and have 8 siblings. She is the youngest. She is 40 never married and no kids.
She keeps asking me for money or items to buy or bills to pay. I pay for what she asks many time. I just stayed with her around 21 days in bkk.
Now we are fiance and want to marry. She asked me for sin sod to be payed to her siblings, nieces and nephews.
I got by surprise as I was not ware of this. I asked her to explain it to me and she gave me this URL.
May 21, 2016 at 7:39 pm
TheThailandLife says
May 23, 2016 at 5:07 pm
Jose says
She was not raised by her grand parents but with the help of sisters and brothers I suppose.
Jun 03, 2016 at 8:09 pm